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most americans could see a rise in taxes and government spending cuts if government does not reach a deal before year's end, and i want to bring in two capitol hill veterans, budget committee member as well, martin frost of texas and david winston, he was aide to newt gingrich and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is they know the speaker was trying to get there and my sense from talking to the speaker's staff that the
most americans could see a rise in taxes and government spending cuts if government does not reach a deal before year's end, and i want to bring in two capitol hill veterans, budget committee member as well, martin frost of texas and david winston, he was aide to newt gingrich and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john...
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the honest debate is that conservative people on the right want less government and destroy government to take what people get out of it. a way to end it. so we are not, and the left is not talking anymore about what the real issues are are, and we talked about in the break about social security, and they are going to gut social skuecurity. i'm okay. i'm old [ laughter ] but y'all are going to be in trouble when it comes to social security and your generations will be in trouble when it comes to social security, because they are going to take it back and gut it so people won't get their do. and we talked about, melissa, if they raised the cap and people who made up to $a 500,000 or more a year had to pay social security, there would be no social security problem for 75 years f. we had not raided the trust fund to begin with, there would not be a problem. we are not talking about the real stuff. >> so when we go over the cliff, whicht looks like we will do, we are talking about 2 million people losing unemployment insurance and immediate cuts to medicare for the poorest americans, and t
the honest debate is that conservative people on the right want less government and destroy government to take what people get out of it. a way to end it. so we are not, and the left is not talking anymore about what the real issues are are, and we talked about in the break about social security, and they are going to gut social skuecurity. i'm okay. i'm old [ laughter ] but y'all are going to be in trouble when it comes to social security and your generations will be in trouble when it comes...
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the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal you'll see more public outrage about it. >> david naka, mura, calling for an up or down vote if the senate can't come up with it. he's talking about 250,000, at one point 400,000. is it realistic to think that the president can win this thing on an up or down vote? >> if they actually go to an up and down vote there will be a lot of pressure on those who were against a temporary fix with this to make their case known and actually go on the record. that's why the question is would the republican senators who would oppose this thing at the $250,000 level, they would use some of the mechanisms they have like the fill buster and things that the public doesn't like, but they're certainly part of the tools that the senators have to object to these things. would they block it? as mark murray said, this is about the blame game and setting up and if you'll block it, go on record to do so or you
the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal you'll see more public outrage about it. >> david naka, mura, calling for an up or down vote if the senate can't come up with it. he's talking about 250,000, at one point 400,000. is it realistic to think that the president can win this thing on an up or down vote? >> if they...
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. >> i will tell you, it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education and the, what's the third one there? let's see. >> yeah. it's one thing to be unable to remember the facts. it is something else to make them up. before disappointing in january, minnesota representative michele bachmann treated us to her version of american history. >> the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the united states. men like john quincy adams who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country. >> yeah. the gop was running candidates that just made stuff up. congresswoman, the founders were slave owners and john quincy adams, not a founder. yes, it seemingly reached a mass of election ridiculousness in 2011. the fun was just beginning. no sooner had we cracked over the 2012 calendar than rick santorum dropped this race bait into the political waters in january. >> i don't want to make people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money. >> oh, blah -- right? hearing it once was hila
. >> i will tell you, it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education and the, what's the third one there? let's see. >> yeah. it's one thing to be unable to remember the facts. it is something else to make them up. before disappointing in january, minnesota representative michele bachmann treated us to her version of american history. >> the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the united...